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Yesterday, Logitech formally introduced the first Google TV product in form of their “Revue” television companion box. I think we have a decent handle on basic Google’s initial TV functionality – in terms of web search, video, and apps. But Logitech has layered on some additional functionality, which is compelling… and potentially confusing.

However, we here at ZNF roll geekier than most. IR blasters may not be the most efficient technology, yet they don’t scare us. And while we may be surprised by Logitech’s $300 price tag, it’s not necessarily a deal-breaker… if Revue delivers something both unique and powerful. Until we see a Google TV with native DVR capabilities, Logitech’s video pass-thru and Harmony-esque remote control capabilities do indeed seem promising.

Instead of merely adding another box to the mix, the Revue actually controls our other boxes (via integrated IR transmitter or additional external IR blaster) and relays video (via HDMI input). So while set-up may be a bit more complex, the end result appears to be a bit more of an integrated home entertainment experience. The tightest integration thus far is specific to DISH Network set-top boxes that extends search across one’s program guide, recorded shows, and DISH VOD:

No IR blaster required for set-up with DISH Network. Simply connect the Logitech Revue Companion Box and your DISH receiver to your home network. With a wireless home network, just connect the Revue box to the network and use a single Ethernet cable between the Revue box and the DISH receiver to provide Internet connectivity to both devices.

Bundled with the Revue is a very nice looking, slim wireless keyboard, with integrated touchpad. However, that’s it — there’s no traditional remote control included. And there isn’t even an optional remote accessory, at least not at launch. Yet Android and iPhone smartphone users will have access to a free Harmony app for full-on (and more compact) control.

Speaking of accessories, Logitech is also leveraging their extensive video camera experience to bring conferencing/chat capabilities to the Google TV platform by way of a $150 camera. It seems a bit pricey, but I assume you need beefed up hardware to properly capture audio and video from across a living room – as opposed to sitting inches away from a typical computer-based webcam. It’s not my thing and, given the number of iPhone 4s saturating the marketplace with Facetime, I wonder if others will want to join into Logitech’s “Vid” network. But it’s a nice value-add for Logitech.

So we’ve got a lot to chew on here. And I’m not convinced we’ll have all the answers until Revue units start arriving. I’m looking forward to getting my hands on one towards the end of the month, but Mari‘s a bit more skeptical. From our informal email exchange, which she didn’t realize I’d be quoting, shortly after Logitech’s presentation:

Looks fun, but not sure it’s useful.

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Not that you had any doubts after seeing the beta correspondence and executive comments, and I don’t want to beat a dead horse. However, I did notice TiVo has updated their website to reflect that a 2010 DirecTV TiVo launch is off the table.

Earlier last week (below):

TiVo and DIRECTV have renewed their partnership, which means a new HD DIRECTV DVR featuring the Emmy® award-winning TiVo service is expected to launch to support satellite customers in 2010.

Later last week (above):

TiVo and DIRECTV have renewed their partnership, which means a new HD DIRECTV DVR featuring the Emmy® award-winning TiVo service is expected to launch to support satellite customers in the future.

Additionally, now states:

We expect the new receiver to launch in early 2011 and we will provide more information as soon as it is available.

New DirecTV TiVo Delayed Into 2011

Dave Zatz —  September 25, 2010

It’s official… The new DirecTV TiVo, announced in 2008, won’t be available until 2011. Which probably isn’t so surprising as CEO Tom Rogers left the door open for another delay at TiVo’s last quarterly call and the recently revealed beta testing is scheduled to run through January. And now PC Mag has the official word from SVP Joe Miller, who confirms the Technicolor-built DirecTV TiVo unit will ship “early next year.” Additionally:

Some of it’s timing, some of it’s development, their platform architecture continues to change and develop, and we’re trying to stream into that, and it’s been that as much as anything. Anytime it’s a new development on a fluid platform, it’s going to take time.

I did feel TiVo’s original 2009 target was aggressive and perhaps unrealistic, given their track record with Comcast and Cox integration and deployment. However, I was hopeful of seeing a a new DirecTiVo in 2010. Good for consumers, good for TiVo, Inc. But I guess it just wasn’t meant to be.

(via Megazone)

New DirecTV TiVo Beta Underway?

Dave Zatz —  September 23, 2010

In case you didn’t believe a new DirecTV TiVo is really under development, check out these purported beta invitation and rejection email messages:

Thank you for your interest in TiVo’s beta programs. We’d like to invite you to join the Field Trials Team in beta testing hardware provided to you by TiVo. To participate you should be:

  • Available to test between now and January, 2011.
  • Willing to endure potential bugs, even with existing functionality – and report them in a timely manner.
  • Willing to complete weekly homework assignments.
  • Willing to share your experiences with others in our beta forums.

Thank you for taking the time to sign-up for our DirecTV/TiVo beta program.  The response to this beta invitation was much greater than what we had expected. We’ve now completed our recruitment for this trial and you have not been selected to participate at this time due to the limited amount of space available in this trial.

While we know Technicolor/Thompson hardware has been selected for DirecTV’s new TiVo offering, the image above is merely my artistic rendering. But what we we still don’t know is when the elusive new DVR will hit. And, for comparison purposes, it seems that the retail Premiere was in broad beta testing for maybe 6 months prior to release. The renewed DirecTV TiVo relationship, established in 2008, was intended to bare fruit in 2009… yet we’ve obviously eclipsed that target. Their current goal is late 2010, but I’d say we’re more likely looking at 2011. What’s your wager?

I’m not sure either of the recent TiVo (pre)announcements warrant an independent post, given the company’s typical long lead between partnership revelations and tangible products. However, given the pings and forum chatter, they’re probably worth touching on briefly as part of a larger ‘week in TiVo’ post.

First, at IBC TiVo and Samsung announced that they’ll be working together on an “advanced PVR solution” — the initial implementation intended to port the TiVo experience to European Samsung DVB DVR hardware. And presumably leveraging Samsung’s existing cable and satellite relationships overseas. Assuming all goes well, the companies “may add non-PVR devices and additional platforms worldwide.” As you’ll recall, TiVo has previously indicated a foray into non-DVR television solutions with an upcoming Internet-connected Best Buy Insignia HDTV.

In the other bit of news, TiVo has joined the Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA). Which comes as no surprise to me, given their previous allusions to a modernized whole home solution for partners and DirecTV’s current multiroom MoCA solution. MoCA networking is an elegant solution that’s generally transparent to the end-user, requiring no new wired or wireless networks as data is transmitted over existing coaxial cable. But don’t take it from me, here’s TiVo’s justification: “Integrating MoCA into our products will enable service providers to offer a simple home networking solution that offers unrivalled Quality of Service.” However, I doubt we’ll see MoCA embedded into retail TiVo hardware anytime soon. Fortunately, with the Premiere’s seriously beefed up network throughput, MRV could still be re-worked into a streaming versus downloading solution.

Catching Up With TiVo v DISH

Dave Zatz —  September 9, 2010

We’ve been covering TiVo’s patent dispute with DISH/EchoStar for, literally, years. Heck, I even trekked down to the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in 2007 to catch some argument/testimony.

However, I’ve grown bored of the topic. And, as neither an investor in TiVo nor DISH/Echo, I’ve got no skin in the game. Having said that, the eventual outcome could have a significant impact on the DVR landscape and US patent system (or DISH’s livelihood). So, if you’re in need of a refresher of how we got here and where we may be going, check out IPWatchdog’s summary – pointed out to me by TiVo owner and shareholder Davis Freeberg.

TiVo, Inc held their quarterly earnings call yesterday. As expected, it was mostly more of the same – revenue down with a net loss (~$15m), subscriber count down (~2.4m), but plenty of cash in the bank ($240m). However, TiVo did answer a long standing question I’ve had regarding the upcoming but delayed DirecTV TiVo. Who’s building the new box? And, as it turns out, the latest incarnation of the DirecTiVo will run on Technicolor/Thomson hardware.

Additionally, as previously disclosed, TiVo reinforced that international Virgin and ONO implementations will run on Cisco hardware. On the US MSO front, RCN is obviously deploying actual Premiere hardware but it appears TiVo hasn’t given up on a tru2way solution to offer providers. From CEO Tom Rogers:

two-way that we continue to build toward

Lastly, back to that DirecTV TiVo… While the official line is still a scheduled 2010 deployment, Rogers gave themselves some wiggle room should it slip into 2011:

As to the DIRECTV box that we are developing, it’s something that we hope to be able to push out late this year.


Looks like DirecTV has enhanced their NFL mobile offering with more than just higher resolution streaming and iPad support this season. Sunday Ticket subscribers can optionally add the To-Go tier for $50, but DirecTV has also decoupled television service from online access — allowing anyone to subscribe to NFL streaming. At $350 for the season, it doesn’t come cheap. But they don’t call it Super Fan for nothing.

We can probably and safely assume that iPhone and iPad video out will be disabled, but connecting a computer to the television for a 720p football stream could perform well… when you’re not actually mobile. However, I’m still holding out hope that Cox launches the RedZone channel (via the new NCTC/NFL agreement) to meet my short attention span and fantasy football needs. Whereas one pal just ordered a Slingbox to locate at his brother’s home, ~500 miles away, to get his football fix.

Thanks, skiswm!