TiVo to "Support Popular Consumer Devices"

Dave Zatz —  September 3, 2014

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Via an FCC filing, we learn more of TiVo’s intentions to further leverage hardware beyond their own set-top boxes:

Consumers today can purchase retail TiVo DVRs and ancillary devices that support iOS and Android products, as well as TVs (using the TiVo Mini), and that soon will support additional ancillary devices that are popular with consumers.

Back at CES TiVo displayed Roku renders while late Spring they demo-ed the TiVo experience on Amazon Fire TV… which were presented as “hypotheticals” for their cable company partners. Yet, given this new filing and impending MPEG4 transition, we’d say things are looking pretty bright for TiVo Roamio and Premiere owners.

(Thanks Sam!)

28 responses to TiVo to "Support Popular Consumer Devices"

  1. This is a good move for Tivo. They are keeping themselves relevant by intergrating their product with the newest and latest generation of OTT devices, which are better established in the OTT world, while they handle the all-important dvr recordings, which they excel at. I’m realliy looking forward to streaming my dvr recordings to my OTT streamer. Even if they charge a fee for it.

  2. Of course, in TiVo vernacular, “soon” is usually something like 12-18 months out… ;)

  3. I am a Prophet. I see through space and time. The future is clear to me. Listen well, ye mortals! I hereby prognosticate a comment from an unrelated story on ZNF. My Third Eye declares the date to be February 2016. It goes as follows.

    “Hey, whatever happened to tivo supporting roku and androidtv and whatnot? I vaguely remember them saying they were gonna do that in 2014?”

  4. That Sam always stealing my thunder ;).

    They also go on to mention game systems if I remember correctly. It would be funny if they ended up supporting the Xbox One which doesn’t work as a Media Center Extender.

  5. Just FYI, you are still having the user post error. I don’t see my posts immediately and after submitting I was shown the leave a reply filled with Rodalpho’s info.

  6. Brennok, the phrasing is weird and ambiguous – kinda wonder if they’re talking about the existing TiVo Mini on Xbox One? Who knows. I can’t duplicate the comment issue at the moment, but I don’t doubt it exists (and I was hit with a few 502 errors both in the dashboard and public site this AM). I hope to move us in the next week or so – thanks for bearing with me.

  7. Excellent! Can’t wait for additional monthly fees for a half-baked and poorly performing implementation that requires I hard-wire my Tivo’s. They’re cutting edge!

    I used to scoff while they sat on their laurels and laid on beds of lawsuit victory money. Now I kinda find myself yearning for the old days.

  8. Xbox One TiVo Mini?? Or do you just mean plugging a TiVo Mini into the Xbox One hdmi input?
    I can’t see how supporting Roku/AndroidTV/FireTV/AppleTV/Game Consoles will fit into their business model unless they charge at least 9.99/mo for the service (per device obviously).

  9. Tivo’s success in this endeavor may depend on the breath and depth of their support for OTT devices. For example, if they support the second generation Roku devices (specifically the HD) I would seriously consider upgrading from my TivoHD to a Roamio OTA.

  10. “Of course, in TiVo vernacular, “soon” is usually something like 12-18 months out…”

    Too pessimistic by a mile. I’m already getting TiVo on my smart light bulbs, smart door locks, and smart refrigerator. (How I’m also getting TiVo on my dumb clock-radio is a bit of a technical mystery to me, but I’m guessing it has something to do with the MPEG4 transition…)

  11. They already set the stage with the ipad app. They have more to worry about with cord cutters and the cloud. They need to keep people subscribed to cable to keep them relevant Let people use what they want within their house.

  12. DISH and DirecTV charge $5 or $6/mo to use their software apps on smart TVs and the like – it seems reasonable for TiVo to go there as well. BUT the new rumor of TiVo dropping or reducing the Mini service fee suggests a different strategy.

  13. I could see them selling the channel on Roku similar to how Plex is now a paid app, iirc.

  14. Give me a TiVo app on the PS4…THEN you’ll have one box to rule them all.

  15. Brennok,
    Funny you should mention Plex. My TiVo sucks up OTA shows, and the cTiVo program running on an old Mac moves those shows from TiVo to a Plex Server (also running on said Mac).

    So, while it’s wonky and doesn’t come anywhere close to being live, it does get shows from TiVo to Roku… eventually.

  16. How about a Plex app on my TiVo Roamio? I’d love that.

  17. Yes…. TiVo’s proverbial problem isn’t lack of vision… it’s the time to market that hurts them and their partners. However with how quickly Comcast is starting to innovate and add features to the Xfinity platform, TiVo will have to improve on execution or they will lose the source of their growth for the past ~2 years (MSOs…) to Comcast when they white label their solution (lYes…. TiVo’s proverbial problem isn’t lack of vision… it’s the time to market that hurts them and their partners. However with how quickly Comcast is starting to innovate and add features to the Xfinity platform, TiVo will have to improve on execution or they will lose the source of their growth for the past ~2 years (MSOs…) to Comcast when they white label their solution (like they do many of their services…) to the smaller MSOs.

    As far as a Plex app on TiVo goes… I too would love it but it does us no good to tell that to TiVo… need to be barking at Plex instead as TiVo has made the platform and app environment available now…ike they do many of their services…) to the smaller MSOs.

    As far as a Plex app on TiVo goes… I too would love it but it does us no good to tell that to TiVo… need to be barking at Plex as TiVo has made the app environment available.

  18. Is there an echo in here? (is there and echo in here?)

  19. It’s not you, it’s my host. Gives the false impression your comment didn’t go through so you reasonably submit again. I cleaned up one of the duplicates. Hope to move soon.

  20. I’m still waiting for Android Stream support. It’s been around two years now and it’s still not available. So two years from now maybe we can access our TiVos through our Rokus, FireTVs, and XBOnes.

  21. As far as Plex on TiVo check the tivocommunity forums in underground I believe. There is a working alpha/beta version.

  22. “As far as Plex on TiVo check the tivocommunity forums in underground I believe. There is a working alpha/beta version.”

    Wow! That’s interesting news to me.

    Any idea, without my having to dive into the forums, will it play back MPEG2 without transcoding? (And maybe even MP4 too?)

    I love having a Mac Mini be the end point of my Plex setup cuz, unlike a Roku, it can playback without transcoding. Seems as if a TiVo has the capabilities to potentially do the same…

  23. @Chucky it is actually in the developer forums on TiVocommunity.
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=10221817#post10221817

    They just started opening it up to testers.Moyekj, who makes KMTTG, and ntlord are working on it. The limitations have to do with the Opera store so I don’t know currently what plays with and without transcoding. It is pretty painless to get it up and running especially if you already have Plex Media Server installed.

  24. Yes, comments are still busted in that they periodically cache prior folks’ data and don’t appear immediately after posting. I know it, my host knows it. I’ve also temporarily turned on JavaScript commenting to see if it can work around the issue. I hope it’s resolved soon and/or I’m moved soon, but your current options are either to to not comment or not worry about it.

  25. Tivo Relevant?! Tivo is practically the next Blackberry. I had a Tivo once. It was great. Then suddenly it’s showing me advertisements. I pay them for advertisements that i can’t shut off? Getting things to other ancillary devices? You mean like the new FIOS boxes are going to do in Q1 16? Except that Tivo will get around to it in Q2 of 17. The worst thing is that I loved my Tivo then they took it to hell. What happened to Tivo, Nintendo, Blackberry? Corporate greed that was lead by inept CEO’s. SMH

  26. As an update, my host can’t explain the lingering issues – the most obvious of which are comment-related. There is no ETA for a fix nor indication that much research is going on since I’m supposedly the only one with problems. Will see what I can do about getting us moved sooner rather than later. Assuming I can get it done, I sure hope these things don’t follow us.

  27. I have a tv in my bedroom that I turn on quarterly. I wonder if I would use it more if I could get the Roamio on my Roku?

  28. I know in my bedroom I have a TiVo Mini attached to it. I still rarely use it. SInce it’s extremely rare that I watch TV while in bed.